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madmaxmedia
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 Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Very interesting! |
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| Quote: | | 2. Will there be a way of easily tagging and getting files (say on your desktop) out of the way? |
Tagging will be easy enough and will use the encircled tokens so often requested for Journler. I'm not sure what you mean by getting files out of the way though. |
Thanks for the reply Phil. Here's how it works with Punakea (a tagging app that uses Spolight comments for metadata):
Punakea has a side bar that you can drag files onto, and assign tag(s) from a choice of frequently used tags (or you can manually enter new ones.) Once this is done, Punakea will automatically move the file into a folder. It's a great way of clearing files off your desktop.
The folder location is customizable, and this behavior can be turned off as well. I think it could work well with Lex- files could automatically be dropped into designated folders for each project. |
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ginopiazza49
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Lex |
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| phildow wrote: |
Whew, I really don't know DevonThink Pro well enough to offer a comparison. |
Phil, You can go to DEVONacademy at http://www.devon-technologies.com/support/academy/index.html to see Quicktime tutorials and on-line tutorials about DevonThink Pro. By going there you may get some ideas for Lex.
By the way, does the name Lex have any significants? I would think you would want a name more document oriented. |
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baptiste
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: Lex for LaTeX? |
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Hi,
Awesome news, i totally like this new program idea! Journler is great, but a single database is not always appropriate and a project driven app will be the perfect complement. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced it's exactly this lack of project-focus that prevented me from using Journler for all my writing.
I was actually thinking about something similar and wondered whether Journler could help me, now i think Lex is a better candidate:
here is my project:
- text files
- images
- pdfs
I use Textmate as a text editor, and the text files are LaTeX documents to be compiled. They are grouped in a TM project (another file). I also have some bibliographic entries in the form of text files (.bib extension).
Editing source in Textmate is great, but file management is not. In particular, you don't really see the images of your project, the associated pdfs, ... Also, I find that making personal notes is more useful in Rich text format than plain text.
What would be great is to embed these different files in a single resource management program like Lex, and have the application of your choice to edit any particular file. Ideally, you would switch from one app to another seamlessly when going from a TeX source to the pdf preview, etc.
BibDesk is a great bibliographic management software, which allows for linking an entry to a pdf file in a very similar way that Journler does. Having them "talk" to each other in a common project would be amazing.
Don't know whether that is doable or belongs to the intended target of Lex, but it appears to me as a *very* efficient workflow evolution.
One could even think of having two versions of an entry: a Rich text, and a plain text, the two of them being linked one to another through some formatting options. You would for instance have a piece of code (needs to be plain text to compile properly), and the associated entry would let you add comments, images, ... in rich text and WYSIWYG. These annotations would reflect in the code if desired as comments.
I can imagine that all sorts of coding/programming projects could use a similar functionality.
What do you think?
all the best,
baptiste |
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phildow
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Lex for LaTeX? |
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| baptiste wrote: | | ... What do you think? |
I think this is the most precise description so far of what Lex will be designed for. |
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baptiste
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't wait to see it! |
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terryhatmaker
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: The future is Lex |
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As I have read the posts, I am more and more convinced that Lex will be my future program. I will continue to use Journler for writing and Journaling, but my day to day sales activities will be done through Lex. Do you see the ability to tie iCal to Lex. I would love to be able to create Tasks and Events from within Lex and have them show up on iCal.
It would be great if Lex would give me the ability to abstract all of the tasks that have been defined for different projects into a list. Maybe this has been discussed, but I do not remember seeing anything about iCal integration.
Terry |
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GuthrieN
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well...this is amazing news. There are a lot of us out there trying to understand how to make Journler more like a straight PIM program, and now you're going to make the solution. I can't wait to beta test the heck out of this.
My only hope is that the whole system isn't too focused on pdf files. As much as I work in them, the most useful options out there for this sort of document management are flexible for those of us that work in txt and rtf. Just my preference.
This is very exciting. You are one of the more exciting developers working to make my Mac better, thanks. |
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NovaScotian
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Assuming that Lex is as scriptable as Journler is, I have uses for both, using Lex to manage script texts and versioning for me, and Journler for everything else. At first I thought they would compete - that I would have to choose - but now I see that they might be complimentary and that I can script them to move stuff back and forth. |
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sjk
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like an interesting project… but the name? Reminds me of lex, the lexical analyzer generator still found on most Unix systems (sometimes as flex). |
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Albo
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phildow
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: Papers and Lex |
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Robert also pointed this one out to me. I think they'll share some similarities, although Lex won't be geared specifically to the scientific or medical community. Looks like a very cool program though. |
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Albo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Another "file collection" app. Posting these for research/comparison etc.
EagleFiler - http://c-command.com/eaglefiler/ |
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phildow
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: file collection apps |
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Ah yeah, see a lot of similarities here. Very similar indeed.
Hehhe! I'm in their screen shots =) Look in the "Search Everything" section, two rows above the selected email. |
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cormullion
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Easglefiler is a nice app, but I did find it quite slow at times. |
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GuthrieN
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| EagleFiler is really, really good. All it lacks is smart folders, which is coming, and a better (in my opinion) interface for editing and writing. It's more a store house but it does so smartly with items organized in their own folder but not locked in a separate database format. He's a really good developer. |
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